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		<title>Is $2.5 Million A Slap On The Wrist?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 07:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michigan debt collection company AGREES to pay $2.5 million dollar fine. Would you do that if  you had done nothing wrong? In virtually the same statement every P.R. person makes for every corporation caught red-handed, Asset Acceptance states: image credit:  Dreamstime &#8220;In a statement, Asset Acceptance said that the settlement ended an F.T.C. investigation that began nearly...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p>Michigan debt collection company AGREES to pay $2.5 million dollar fine.</p>
<p>Would you do that if  you had done nothing wrong?</p>
<p>In virtually the same statement every P.R. person makes for every corporation caught red-handed, Asset Acceptance states:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/stock-images-caught-red-handed-blackhand-image326034.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-4223" title="http://www.dreamstime.com/-image326034" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/stock-images-caught-red-handed-blackhand-image326034.jpeg" alt="" width="240" height="160" /></a>image credit:  <a title="link to Dreamstime site" href="http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-images-caught-red-handed-blackhand-image326034" target="_blank">Dreamstime</a></p>
<p>&#8220;In a statement, <a title="Asset Acceptance’s Web site." href="http://investors.assetacceptance.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=148416&amp;p=irol-newsArticle&amp;ID=1654112&amp;highlight=">Asset Acceptance</a> said that the settlement ended an F.T.C. investigation that began nearly six years ago, and that the company <strong>did not admit to any of the allegations.</strong> “We are pleased to have this matter behind us, and to have clarity on the F.T.C.’s policies and expectations of the debt collection industry,” said Rion Needs, president and chief executive of Asset Acceptance.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it was all just a misunderstanding.</p>
<p>Asset Acceptance, a collection agency, handles thousands of debts. How are they supposed to know which ones were discharged in bankruptcy, which are past the statute of limitations?</p>
<p>I mean, they work in all 50 states, and probably other countries, each with its own statutes of limitation.  Hey, checking all those out would be, you know, WORK!</p>
<p>They probably cannot get slave labor, so, more work, means more employees, or lower productivity for existing employees, which costs more, which cuts profits.</p>
<p>GREED &#8211; GREED &#8211; GREED.</p>
<p>There is a reason it is one of the seven deadly sins.</p>
<p>I agree with the NCLC spokesperson quoted in the N. Y. Times article linked to above:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/stock-photography-soft-wrist-massage-image217952621.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-4225" title="stock-photography-soft-wrist-massage-image21795262" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/stock-photography-soft-wrist-massage-image217952621.jpeg" alt="" width="240" height="160" /></a>image credit: <a title="link to Dreamstime site" href="The penalty “is certainly a slap on the wrist and probably a little bit more, but it really depends on what the F.T.C. does to enforce this in the coming months and years,” said Robert Hobbs, deputy director at the National Consumer Law Center and author of “Fair Debt Collection” (National Consumer Law Center, 1987)" target="_blank"> Dreamstime</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The penalty “is certainly a <strong>slap on the wrist</strong> and probably a little bit more, but it really depends on what the F.T.C. does to enforce this in the coming months and years,” said<a title="Link to Mr. Hobbs’ biography." href="http://www.nclc.org/about-us/bob-hobbs.html">Robert Hobbs</a>, deputy director at the National Consumer Law Center and author of “Fair Debt Collection” (National Consumer Law Center, 1987)&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Homeowner Help? Or Government Sellout?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The long awaited on again, off again, multi-state settlement between the Attorneys General of our various states and the mortgage company rapists, uh, crooks, is apparently on again. Unless this is your first trip to this blog, let me end the suspense:  the proposed settlement is: image credit: dreamstime Sorry to ruin the ending. What...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fstopcreditor.com%2Fhomeowner-help-or-government-sellout%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p>The long awaited on again, off again, multi-state settlement between the Attorneys General of our various states and the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> company rapists, uh, crooks, is apparently on again.</p>
<p>Unless this is your first trip to this blog, let me end the suspense:  the proposed settlement is:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/royalty-free-stock-photography-sellout-image8735167.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-4215" title="royalty-free-stock-photography-sellout-image8735167" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/royalty-free-stock-photography-sellout-image8735167.jpeg" alt="" width="240" height="184" /></a>image credit: <a title="link to Dreamstime site" href="http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photography-sellout-image8735167" target="_blank">dreamstime</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Sorry to ruin the ending.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What the heck am I talking about?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Many of the various <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> crimes perpetrated on American homeowners by <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> companies and <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> servicers, the other companies the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> companies to which the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> companies outsourced the collection and allocation of your payments, are to be absolved, beause,</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><strong>GET THIS!</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> companies promised not to do it any more!  Wow! I bet our various representatives, in Michigan, as in many states, the Attorney General is an elected position, really had to go to the mat to get that concession.  I&#8217;ll wager there was blood on the floor!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Gag me with a spoon.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">It is bad enough to let the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> mafia off the hook; but to pretend that you got something out of them when you are letting them off the hook adds insult to injury.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Gretchen Morgensten has the best account of the vast crimes wrought by the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> industry, in her book <a title="link to Amazon site" href="&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=stopcreditor-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=0805091203&amp;ref=qf_sp_asin_til&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;bc1=000000&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;width:120px;height:240px;&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;" target="_blank">Reckles$ Endangerment</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The normally consumer oriented, big government will protect the little guy, Center for Responsible Lending, actually endorsed the terms of the <a title="link to center for responsible lending site" href="http://www.responsiblelending.org/media-center/press-releases/archives/AG-Settlement-Not-Perfect-but-Significant-Reform-of-Mortgage-Servicing.html" target="_blank">attorney general settlement</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The bastards mis-allocate your payments, put you in default with their defective bookkeeping, which, just incidentally, increases the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage servicer</a> bottom line, and, now, they promise to stop!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Fan-frickin&#8217;-tastic.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">No more <a title="ink to Truth Out site" href="http://www.truth-out.org/why-all-robo-signing-shining-light-shadow-banking-system/1327502824" target="_blank">robo-signing</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is akin to letting a bank robber off without jail time because he promises not to rob banks anymore.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">There is much more, but how sick do you want to get?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This time around, it says homeowners can still sue on their own, and that it &#8220;would not shield banks from prosecution related to criminal activities&#8221; (from the Center for Responsible Lending site linked to above).</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Whaddya mean:  &#8220;prosecution related to criminal activities&#8221;?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What the hell else can you anyone be prosecuted for?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">They have not been prosecuted yet; Obama just appointed a commission to whitewash the crimes at the federal level, and now the State AGs will run home and campaign on how they socked it to the bad guys.  They are not going to try to take them on.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Good luck getting any law enforcement agency interested in your case.</p>
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		<title>Bankruptcy Still Offers Mortgage Debt Relief</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 06:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I talk to so many people trying to keep their homes, or, even rental properties, who are unaware that bankruptcy law still offers some remedies for Michigan foreclosure issues. image credit: dreamstime Say you bought a house with a friend or relative when you were younger, then moved into a bigger residence when you got...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="fblike" style="height:25px; height:25px; overflow:hidden;"><iframe src="http://www.facebook.com/plugins/like.php?href=http%3A%2F%2Fstopcreditor.com%2Fbankruptcy-still-offers-mortgage-debt-relief%2F&amp;layout=standard&amp;show_faces=true&amp;width=450&amp;action=like&amp;font=arial&amp;colorscheme=light" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allow Transparency="true" style="border:none; overflow:hidden; width:450px;"></iframe></div><!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p style="text-align: left;">I talk to so many people trying to keep their homes, or, even rental properties, who</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">are unaware that bankruptcy law still offers some remedies for Michigan <a title="link to my mortgage blog" href="http://www.michiganmortgageattorney.com/category/foreclosure/" target="_blank">foreclosure issues</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/royalty-free-stock-photography-i-rule-image2089367.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-4204" title="http://www.dreamstime.com/-image2089367" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/royalty-free-stock-photography-i-rule-image2089367.jpeg" alt="" width="222" height="260" /></a>image credit: <a title="link to Dreamstime site" href="http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photography-i-rule--image2089367" target="_blank">dreamstime</a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Say you bought a house with a friend or relative when you were younger, then moved</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">into a bigger residence when you got married, whatever, and kept the old one to rent</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">out for some side income.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Great idea, right?  Home values only go up, so if you break even on the rent, you make</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">money on the investment.<span id="more-4203"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Until the bubble bursts, the music stops playing, the rental house is worth less than</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">you owe on it, and, no tenant!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Before you give up, consult an expert, bankruptcy law allows the cram down of that</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> to the value of the home, and the court can re-write the terms, including</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">interest rate and how long to pay it back.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is true if the home is NOT your principal residence.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>BUT THERE IS MORTGAGE RELIEF FOR HOMEOWNERS TOO!</strong></em></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">If you have a <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/?s=glossary" >second mortgage</a> on your Michigan home, odds are, the home is worth</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">less than what is owed on the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/?s=glossary" >first mortgage</a>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michigan bankruptcy clients forget creditors all the time.  Or, don&#8217;t even know they owe some body money, especially medical bills, which often show up months later. Some people panic:  I already had my bankruptcy hearing, is it too late?  How much trouble am I in?  Will I have to pay this bill? image credit: dreamstime...
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<p>Michigan bankruptcy clients forget creditors all the time.  Or, don&#8217;t even know they</p>
<p>owe some body money, especially medical bills, which often show up months later.</p>
<p>Some people panic:  I already had my <a title="link to another post on this site" href="http://stopcreditor.com/chapter-no-asset-report/" target="_blank">bankruptcy hearing</a>, is it too late?  How much</p>
<p>trouble am I in?  Will I have to pay this bill?<span id="more-4189"></span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Bankruptcy law gives the debtor, that is you, the person filing the bankruptcy, the</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">right to amend the schedules any time so long as the case is open.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Now, you have to give the creditor notice when you file the amendment adding the</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">creditor, and, in Michigan Chapter 7 bankruptcy cases, the creditor gets time to</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">object to the discharge, as they would if they had received timely notice.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What if you already received your Chapter 7 discharge?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Michigan is in the 6th Circuit, which, like most circuits, allows a case to be</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">re-opened to add a creditor.  However, the 6th Circuit ruled that there is no reason</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">to re-open a case to add a creditor if (1) it was a no asset case unless (2) the creditor,</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">now that it knows about the bankruptcy, wants to object to the discharge of the</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">debt.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Michigan allows the use of the Federal bankruptcy exemptions, so most cases are</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a title="link to another post on this site" href="http://stopcreditor.com/chapter-no-asset-report/" target="_blank">no asset bankruptcy cases</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, in a Chapter 7 bankruptcy case, you can add an omitted creditor any time as</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">long as your case is open.  The creditor will have a chance to file a proof of claim, if</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">trustee has collected assets, and a chance to object to the bankruptcy discharge.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In a Chapter bankruptcy 13 case, the same rules apply, up to the deadline to file a claim.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That is, if the creditor had actual notice of the claim.  That way, there is no prejudice, as</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">we say in the law biz, no harm to a creditor who finds out in time to file a claim and get paid</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">as Chapter 13s are payment plans.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">If no notice to the creditor in time to file a claim, no discharge of that debt.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">A number of other bankruptcy experts across the country are playing the &#8220;alphabet game&#8221;,</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">writing on topics that begin with each letter of the alphabet.  The other topic that</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">begin with the letter &#8220;O&#8221; are listed below.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a title="LINK TO Nebraska attorney site" href="http://bankruptcyblog.caldwell-lawfirm.com/2011/11/18/bankruptcy-alphabet-o-is-for-objection.aspx" target="_blank">Objection</a>    Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska Bankruptcy Attorney, Ryan D. Caldwell<br />
<a title="link to Jay Fleischman site" href="http://www.consumerhelpcentral.com/bankruptcy-alphabet-own/" target="_blank">Own</a>    New York Bankruptcy Lawyer, Jay S. Fleischman<br />
<a title="link to Cathy Moran site" href="http://moranlaw.net/blog/bankruptcy-alphabet-o-for-omitted/" target="_blank">Omitted</a>    Bay Area Bankruptcy Lawyer Cathy Moran<br />
<a title="link to Philadelphia attorney site" href=" http://christophercarrlaw.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/o-is-for-options-to-bankruptcyhttp://springsbankruptcylaw.com/?p=1237" target="_blank" class="broken_link">Options to Bankruptcy</a>    Suburban Philly Bankruptcy Lawyer, Chris Carr<br />
<a title="link to Metro Richmond Consumer and Bankruptcy Attorney, Mitchell Goldstein" href=" http://www.morethanbankruptcy.com/bankruptcy-a-z-o-is-oops.html" target="_blank">OOPS</a>    Metro Richmond Consumer and Bankruptcy Attorney, Mitchell Goldstein<br />
<a title="link to  Hilo Bankruptcy Attorney, Stuart T. Ing   " href="http://www.bankruptcyhi.com/2012/01/o-is-for-objec…n-to-discharge/" target="_blank" class="broken_link">Objection to Discharge</a>    Hilo Bankruptcy Attorney, Stuart T. Ing</p>
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		<title>The Mystery of Chapter 11</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[photo credit: dreamstime What the hell is Chapter 11?  Just the name gives most people a headache. OK, maybe not as much of a headache as if you work for a company that files Chapter 11 bankruptcy, or, if a company that owes you money files under Chapter 11. Most Chapter 11 bankruptcies are filed...
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<p style="text-align: left;">What the hell is Chapter 11?  Just the name gives most people a headache.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">OK, maybe not as much of a headache as if you work for a company that files</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Chapter 11 bankruptcy, or, if a company that owes you money files under</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Chapter 11.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Most Chapter 11 bankruptcies are filed by businesses that want to reorganize,</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">because, obviously, something bad happened.<span id="more-4182"></span></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/BOATsunk.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4184" title="BOATsunk" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/BOATsunk-168x300.jpg" alt="" width="168" height="300" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Probably not as bad as sunk as this boat.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Generally, the bigger a business is, the more complex it is, and the more</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">involved the bankruptcy case will be.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">But individuals can file Chapter 11 too!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This does not excite you?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Chapter 7, or straight, or liquidation bankruptcy, is what most people file, and</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">where many companies  which start in Chapter 11 end up.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In Michigan bankruptcy cases, rarely is anything liquidated; most people who</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">file do not lose any property to the <a title="link to another post on this site" href="http://stopcreditor.com/chapter-no-asset-report/" target="_blank">Chapter 7 trustee</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Chapter 13 is a payment plan for individuals with regular income.  Corporations</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">cannot file Chapter 13 bankruptcy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Companies that file Chapter 11 can get out of union contracts, and most other</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">contracts for that matter.  The court can re-write the terms of secured loans;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">unsecured creditors, ones with no collateral, are lucky to get pennies on the</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">dollar.  As for those who own stock or bonds, well, check with your friends who</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">owned GM or Chrysler stock.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Individuals in Chapter 11 cannot get the terms of the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/?s=glossary" >first mortgage</a> on their</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">residence changed, but, can get mortgages changed on any other real estate</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">they own.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This can save a person in the business of, say, renting houses or apartments.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">That is the point of Chapter 11, to allow reorganization, a payment plan that</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">pays what is required, and keeps the business going.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, you could own 8 Michigan houses that you rent.  They are all underwater,</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">that is, worth much less than what is owed on them.  Yet, you still have paying</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">tenants.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">But you can see this is going nowhere, you owe a million dollars more than they</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">are worth all totaled.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Bingo!  Chapter 11 allows you to re-write every one of those</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">mortgages down to the value of the home, and even change the interest rate,</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">and how many years are left on the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Do you have any questions about Chapter 11?</p>
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		<title>Mystery: Credit Card Offer After Bankruptcy?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(image credit:  dreamstime) You have your bankruptcy discharge, and now, you get an offer in the mail for:  another credit card! It feels great!  You thought it would take years to &#8220;build up&#8221; your credit again!  You just wiped out thousands of dollars of credit card debt.  Why would the bank send you an offer...
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<p>You have your <a title="link to my U Tube video explaining discharge" href="http://stopcreditor.com/bankruptcy-discharge-video/" target="_blank">bankruptcy discharge</a>, and now, you get an offer in the mail for:  another credit card!</p>
<p>It feels great!  You thought it would take years to &#8220;build up&#8221; your credit again!  You just wiped out thousands of dollars of credit card debt.  Why would the bank send you an offer for a new credit card???</p>
<p>Is it a good idea to get a credit card?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/CREDITcards.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4175" title="CREDITcards" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/CREDITcards-300x225.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Why is it easier now?</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Well, time was, billions, yes, billions, of applications were mailed out each year.  By banks eager to help you.  NOT.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">By a money lending industry whose business model was dependent on you defaulting so they could make money.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Yes, if you paid that credit card off each month, there was no profit.  The money they charged the retailer barely met the overhead.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">And they offered low interest rates, even zero, if you paid off another account or debt and borrowed money from their credit card.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Then, if you ever defaulted, you got that penalty rate of 29.99% or whatever, and late fees, and so on.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The credit card &#8220;agreement&#8221; said they could change the terms whenever the urge struck them.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Like free heroin until you get addicted, then, pow!  Price increase!</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, the Fed is now virtually giving the banks money to lend, so even at 3%, with normal default rates they make a killing.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Some <a title="link to AP story" href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/15/defaults-down-getting-credit-cards-getting-easier/" target="_blank">$75 billion of credit card debt has been written off</a> by the poor banks since hard times began.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The credit card default rate is about half of what it was a year ago, according to our friend at the Fed, in the same story linked to above.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Would you trust an offer from these guys?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/group-of-bad-rats-thumb2318372.jpeg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4178" title="http://www.dreamstime.com/-image2318372" src="http://stopcreditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/group-of-bad-rats-thumb2318372-300x255.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="255" /></a>(image credit:  <a title="link to Dreamstime site" href="http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photography-group-of-bad-rats-image2318372" target="_blank">dreamstime</a>)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Well, I hope not.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a title="link to Amazon" href="&lt;iframe src=&quot;http://rcm.amazon.com/e/cm?t=stopcreditor-20&amp;o=1&amp;p=8&amp;l=as1&amp;asins=159555078X&amp;ref=qf_sp_asin_til&amp;fc1=000000&amp;IS2=1&amp;lt1=_blank&amp;m=amazon&amp;lc1=0000FF&amp;bc1=000000&amp;bg1=FFFFFF&amp;f=ifr&quot; style=&quot;width:120px;height:240px;&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; marginwidth=&quot;0&quot; marginheight=&quot;0&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;" target="_blank" class="broken_link">Dave Ramsey&#8217;s book</a> gives good advice about credit cards and other family finance issues.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Rich people do not have credit cards, they have money.  They did not get money by spending on credit cards.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">They got it by saving.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Use a debit card, if you must have plastic, but, don&#8217;t go back into debt after bankruptcy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">It is no mystery why you get a credit card offer, even after filing bankruptcy:  the rats want you in debt again.</p>
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		<title>How Much Is Your Home Worth?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 07:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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<p>H is for home value, in the Alphabet Game, bankruptcy experts across the country blog on different topics.</p>
<p>I always ask potential clients this question, <a title="link to Rasmussen site" href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/housing/july_2011/just_49_say_home_is_worth_more_than_mortgage" target="_blank">how much is your home worth</a>?, I mean, really, and the response frequently is something like:  well, it is worth $200,000, but right now, I can only get maybe $160,000 for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, what do we mean by &#8220;worth&#8221;?</p>
<p>There are state tax valuations, which are normally not worth the paper they are written on, and worth even less these days.</p>
<p>How about that last bank appraisal?</p>
<p>The one you did for the re-finance back in 2008 or earlier?</p>
<p>Uh, no good.</p>
<p>Most appraisals during those peak bubble  years were bogus, done to hit a number that would allow the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> to go through and the <a href="http://stopcreditor.com/michigan-bankruptcy-lawyer/glossary-definitions/" >mortgage</a> broker to take a commission.</p>
<p>What I mean is, what would a willing buyer pay, right now, as is, no painting or other fix up.  Your best guess as to the actual market price, usually based on sales of similar homes close by.  Almost everyone I talk to has a foreclosed home, or more than one, for sale nearby.</p>
<p>If your neighbor&#8217;s house is basically the same as yours, maybe a little better, and is for sale for $150,000, that means, it is worth less than that, or someone would have purchased it at that price.  So, your home is also worth less than that.</p>
<p>Doug wrote about <a title="link to another post on this site" href="http://moneyhealthcentral.com/to-own-or-rent-that-is-the-question/" target="_blank">renting v. buying a home</a> this week, and I recommend everyone do this.</p>
<p>If you are in a home now worth less than what is owed, and have trouble making the payments, you need to figure out the answer to our question:  How much is your home worth?</p>
<p>Most of us, due to wishful thinking, I suppose, <a title="link to NY Times" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Homeowners-in-Denial-About-nytimes-2586795538.html?x=0&amp;.v=1" target="_blank" class="broken_link">overestimate the value of our home</a>.</p>
<p>Get a free estimate from a local realtor, but, get a good answer on the value.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t assume prices are going to rebound soon, either.</p>
<p>I have seen estimates of another 20% decline in home prices over the next year.</p>
<p>You cannot do intelligent financial planning without knowing stuff like this.</p>
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<p><a title="LINK TO Nebraska attorney site" href=" http://bankruptcyblog.caldwell-lawfirm.com/2011/11/10/bankruptcy-alphabet-h-is-for-hearing.aspx" target="_blank">Hearing</a>    Omaha and Lincoln, Nebraska Bankruptcy Attorney, Ryan D. Caldwell<br />
<a title="California attorney site" href=" http://marin-bankruptcy-law.com/2011/11/27/bankruptcy-a-to-z-h-is-for-home-owners-association-dues/" target="_blank">Homeowner&#8217;s Association Dues</a>    Marin County Bankruptcy Attorney, Catherine Eranthe<br />
<a title="link to NY city attorney site" href="http://www.consumerhelpcentral.com/bankruptcy-alphabet-household/" target="_blank">Household </a>   New York Bankruptcy Lawyer, Jay S. Fleischman<br />
<a title="link to California attorney site" href="http://moranlaw.net/blog/bankruptcy-alphabet-h-for-house/" target="_blank">House</a>    Northern California Bankruptcy Lawyer, Cathy Moran<br />
<a title="link to Bob Doig Colorado Springs attorney" href="http://springsbankruptcylaw.com/?p=1134" target="_blank">Homestead</a>    Colorado Springs Bankruptcy Lawyer Bob Doig<br />
<a title="link to Los Angeles attorney site" href=" http://bklaw.com/bankruptcy-blog/2011/12/h-is-for-house/" target="_blank">House </a>   Los Angeles Bankruptcy Attorney, Mark J. Markus<br />
<a title="link to attorney Stuart Ing site" href="http://www.bankruptcyhi.com/2011/12/h-is-for-household-size/" target="_blank">Household Size</a>    Hilo Bankruptcy Attorney, Stuart T. Ing<br />
<a title="link to Cleveland Area Bankruptcy lawyer Bill Balena" href="http://ohiobankruptcysource.com/?p=2271" target="_blank">Honesty </a>   Cleveland Area Bankruptcy Lawyer, Bill Balena<br />
<a title="link to Philadelphia attorney site" href=" http://christophercarrlaw.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/the-h-in-the-bankruptcy-alphabet-is-for-honesty-and-fraud-avoidance/" target="_blank">Honesty (and Fraud Avoidance) </a>   Philadelphia Suburban Bankruptcy Lawyer, Chris Carr<br />
<a title="Detroit downriver bankruptcy attorney" href=" http://downriverbankruptcy.com/harassment-creditors/#axzz1h2jqIIrL" target="_blank">Harassment by Creditors</a>    Downriver, Michigan Bankruptcy Attorney, Christopher McAvoy</p>
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		<title>Are You Better Off Than You Were A Year Ago?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 07:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you better off than you were a year ago? Record numbers of Americans are not.  Rasmussen Reports, the top polling agency, says 32% of us owe more than last year. Not coincidentally, confidence in banks is at an all time low. And the government doesn&#8217;t poll so well either. With unemployment staying high, home...
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<p>Record numbers of Americans are not.  Rasmussen Reports, the top polling agency, says <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/november_2011/32_owe_more_money_than_last_year" target="_blank">32% of us owe more than last year</a>.</p>
<p>Not coincidentally, <a href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/november_2011/confidence_in_u_s_banks_dips_to_new_low" target="_blank">confidence in banks is at an all time low</a>.</p>
<p>And the government doesn&#8217;t poll so well either.</p>
<p>With unemployment staying high, home prices not rebounding, incomes stagnant, there is no justification for owing more than last year.  That is, we do not have more equity in our homes to borrow against, and we are not making more money with which we could pay back more debt.</p>
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<p align="LEFT">Seems to me there is only one conclusion:  HELL, NO!</p>
<p align="LEFT">Each case is individual, of course.  In Michigan, home values are down further, unemployment remains high, and economic growth is uncertain.</p>
<p align="LEFT">Across America, credit <a title="link to Forbes" href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/insidearm/2011/10/18/large-banks-report-increase-in-credit-card-delinquencies/" target="_blank">card delinquencies </a>are increasing.</p>
<p align="LEFT">The end of the year is fast approaching, traditionally a time to take stock of where we are, spiritually and financially,</p>
<p align="LEFT">I will stick to the financial side.</p>
<p align="LEFT">I think one of the most difficult things we can do as humans, is to look in the mirror and see what is really there.  Hey, scares me sometimes!</p>
<p align="LEFT">Sooner is better than later, if you have a balance sheet from last year, that is, your assets, property and its value, and your liabilities, debts, you can compare where you are now to where you are then.</p>
<p align="LEFT">Better yet, write down your expectations for the next year.  Then you can review and see if you hit or missed.</p>
<p align="LEFT">I hate to hear from clients, and it happens all the time, that they borrowed against there 401ks, cashed out IRAs, just to make up the shortfall for a decline in income.</p>
<p align="LEFT">A client told me last week that she read most people do not file until two years AFTER they are actually bankrupt. Nobody wants to, nobody likes it, we do  not do things until we are emotionally ready.</p>
<p align="LEFT">Not that there is a right or wrong, it is not my face you see in the mirror, but, do the cold, factual analysis of where you are now financially, and where you will be in a year.</p>
<p align="LEFT">Talk to me for free if you have questions.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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<p> Creditors may not all look like this.  OK, probably none of them do.  But that is what some of them make us think they are, on their way to bashing our heads in if we don&#8217;t fork over the loot.</p>
<p>Loot that we don&#8217;t have.</p>
<p>The bankruptcy code defines <a title="link to Jay Fleischman site" href="http://www.consumerhelpcentral.com/bankruptcy-alphabet-creditor/" target="_blank">creditor</a> as:</p>
<p>(A) entity that has a <a title="link to another post on this site" href="http://stopcreditor.com/stop-paying-credit-cards/" target="_blank">claim</a> against the debtor (the person who filed bankruptcy) that arose at the time of or before the order for relief concerning the debtor;</p>
<p>It goes on to list definitions (B) and (C), but reading those gives even me a headache.</p>
<p>To further translate definition (A) into English, &#8220;entity&#8221; is a person or company or partnership or securitized trust, whatever, that claims you owe it monty.</p>
<p>The &#8220;order for relief&#8221; is the filing of the bankruptcy case.</p>
<p>Lawyers.  The way we write sometimes.  &#8220;at the time of or before the order for relief&#8221; just means before you filed the case, or, at the exact moment you filed the case.  That is how it reads.  Frankly, until re-reading this just now, I always assumed there was before and after a case was filed, and no &#8220;at the time of&#8221;.</p>
<p>Even before electronic filing online, courts had time stamps, and we knew the exact minute of the day a case was filed.</p>
<p>So, in the world of bankruptcy, Chapter 7 or Chapter 13, we have debtors, the good guys, the people who file, and, creditors, the ones trying to get money, the bad guys, no the other.</p>
<p>Oversimplification, I know, but, this is a blog, not an encyclopedia.</p>
<p>The important thing about creditors is TO LIST THEM ALL ON YOUR BANKRUPTCY.  You do not have a choice, you are under oath in a Federal Court.  It is perjury to leave someone off the list, do you want to look at the sun come up in chunks? as one of my lawyer friends likes to say.  (Chunks would be the part between the bars on your prison cell.)</p>
<p>If there were one thing I could get from my clients by waiving a magic wand over their heads, it would be this one.  Tell me everything.  No thinking.  Anyone getting your money, trying to get your money, that you are paying money, that has any kind of claim against you for money, gets listed.</p>
<p>If you dispute the debt, you say you owe nothing, no problem, list them, and we check the box that says &#8220;disputed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Debtors benefit, because the court sends the notice to everyone, so the creditor knows to stop bugging you.</p>
<p>Oh, you say you don&#8217;t want to list cousin Sue, your plan to pay her.  MUST BE LISTED.  You can pay anyone you want.  The law does not require you to list only the ones you do not want to pay.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t risk the prison cell.</p>
<p>Other C topics:</p>
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<p><a title="link to Caldwell law firm site" href="http://bankruptcyblog.caldwell-lawfirm.com/2011/11/05/bankruptcy-alphabet-c-is-for-conversion.aspx" target="_blank">Conversion</a></p>
<p><a title="link to Cathy Moran site" href="http://moranlaw.net/blog/bankruptcy-alphabet-c-for-counseling/" target="_blank">Counseling</a></p>
<p><a title="link to Bob Doig Colorado Springs attorney" href="http://springsbankruptcylaw.com/?p=1048" target="_blank">Cramdown</a></p>
<p><a title="link to Christopher Carr law firm" href="http://christophercarrlaw.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/the-c-in-the-bankruptcy-alphabet/" target="_blank">Competence and Compassion</a></p>
<p><a title="link to Cleveland Area Bankruptcy lawyer Bill Balena" href="http://ohiobankruptcysource.com/?p=2172" target="_blank">Co-signer</a></p>
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		<title>Personal Finances Then And Now</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 07:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kurt O&#39;Keefe</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you better off than you were a year ago? Record numbers of Americans are not.  Rasmussen Reports, the top polling agency, says 32% of us owe more than last year. Not coincidentally, confidence in banks is at an all time low. And the government doesn&#8217;t poll so well either. With unemployment staying high, home...
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<p>Record numbers of Americans are not.  Rasmussen Reports, the top polling agency, says <a title="link to Rasmussen site" href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/november_2011/32_owe_more_money_than_last_year" target="_blank">32% of us owe more than last year</a>.</p>
<p>Not coincidentally, <a title="link to Rasmussen site" href="http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/november_2011/confidence_in_u_s_banks_dips_to_new_low" target="_blank">confidence in banks is at an all time low</a>.</p>
<p>And the government doesn&#8217;t poll so well either.</p>
<p>With unemployment staying high, home prices not rebounding, incomes stagnant, there is no justification for owing more than last year.  That is, we do not have more equity in our homes to borrow against, and we are not making more money with which we could pay back more debt.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Seems to me there is only one conclusion:</p>
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